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Give MK gamers aim assist. Then they will have no more excuses 😏🤣🤣🤣
gr8 video ! Fps games have nothing to do with a fking stick. FPS games were invented on MNK and should stay on mnk, this roller fiesta is just a big marketing shit that produce trillions of $$$. It is disgusting to see how today and the future will look. If they make MNKvsMNK and stick vs stick i have no problem. stop mixing the 2 inputs, it is outrageous disgusting.
I never won a 1v1 ads vs ads in apex vs a controller input, it is so retarded and braindead. i lost manny games because some braindead aimless noob ads me and 1 clips me with the help of AA. Fk this shit.
All points are valid, but if Aim assist does get nerfed, then the movement on controllers needs to be buffed as yes its not fun being beamed by a computer but it's also no fun watching someone do leaps around you with movement you could only hope of being able to do and then for them to easily kill you and say your trash.
aim assist aint a god send thing at all get over yourself people you ain't getting paid to play just play the game an stop whining about it or better yet get good learn how to move an stop being a bot standing still allowing players to hit you.
The thing is using a controller makes the game easier for the average person to play not only because consoles are more affordable than computers but there's also less muscle memory… Its just the people who dominate on it are mostly losers who haven't left their house for almost a decade.. games are meant to be played a little bit here and there maybe a little bit every day not 12 hours a day every day.. some of these people have over 9,000 hours on apex Legends.. Lol
Apex in comparison to many modern games has much more difficult gun mechanics, imo Fortnite is incredibly easy to aim in so much so that the difference between MnK and Controller aim assist is negligible, but in an FPS game like apex where hitting your shots is so much harder but equally important it quickly becomes an issue giving a part of the playerbase an inhuman advantage where even the argument of fast input delay is shifted against controller players as they get artificial instant corrections to their aim. Most MnK players had to play alot to learn how to aim in Apex (me included) but i have plugged in a controller and played better than ever after only an hour which to me is the biggest problem.
Great video, very well put together and love how you went through the history of aim assist
But I completely disagree in the most respectful way possible
People like genburt or Nick mercs or scump who say aim assist is OP are literally the top 0.1% roller players. They do not speak for the masses of normal controller players who didn’t spend their last 10 years playing professional FPS games.
Most of ALGS teams are comprised for KBM players still to this very day and just because a couple salty pros switch to controller doesn’t mean it’s OP and needs to be nerfed, it still favors KBM for these reasons which in my opinion, combined are a much more OP than aim assist
Moving while looting- this alone in a battle royal game where the premise is to loot up in the heat of battle and try to win is extremely overpowered, there’s a reason KBM players make fun of “controller looting” because it’s such a fat disadvantage that most roller players avoid looting in the open. The fact that shield swapping (a huge mechanic in the apex landscape for winning fights) is 10xs easier on pc means it’s OP.
Im not saying take it away, but it’s overpowered vs roller players and we deal with it
Tap strafing- I love tap strafing don’t get me wrong, it’s so beautiful to see pc players out play others with it and I never want it to go away, but to say it’s not overpowered when used in atleast public and ranked lobbies is crazy because it is. Most roller players are 3-3 or 4-3 sense and idc who you are, if u Tap strafe close range in front of a roller player he will completely struggle and it’ll net you an easy kill most times (not talking about the 0.1% pros, talking about everyone else on roller) which again, makes it OP. Yet we ignore that and focus on “aim assist aims for you” which is honestly such a uneducated comment it annoys tf out of me. I’ve never put my thumb sticks down and held right trigger and got a kill, I’ve never felt my controller aim for me because it doesn’t. Stop with that petty argument please
Anyways my main points are PC has more overpowered tech, so my solution?
Give controllers moving while looting and also tap strafing directly THEN you can change aim assist after
Move pc aim assist to 0.1 or 0.2 (compared to the current 0.3) (probably test out both with pros to see what they think, since most of the roller pros play on PC)
But keep console aim assist at the same 0.6 or move it down to 0.5
Before u complain about why console should be similar, casual fan bases are the reason games like Apex can survive and make money, you HAVE to appeal to them no matter what the pros say because guess what, the pros don’t make 99% of ur player base OR your revenue
Plus like I said most serious players play on PC anyways, so it’ll still affect them while not affecting normal console apex lobbies with all the casuals
Apex is NOT a CSGO type valorant type game, it’s more comparable to fort and warzone meaning it’s a battle royal with a lot of random aspects to each game, and when you start listening to pros about how the game should be made you get things taken out that are fun like self revive knockdown shields
Yes I do agree they should’ve been taken out of ALGS and maybe even ranked.
But casual lobbies?! Man nothing was more fulfilling and fun then getting knocked and somehow pulling off that loud and obnoxiously long revive and clutching up a win, things like that make the game more exciting and pros have NO care in the world for exciting, they want consistency cause that helps them win
While I respect that from them, we need to separate ALGS rules and consistency from casual games and their inconsistency because that makes the game more fun
Respawn needs to tend to each separately and in their own specific way to keep this game alive and well because next thing you know they are gonna say abilities are too OP and we have a barebones ass game and apex dies.
-aim asisst does not aim for you, you’re just salty
-Moving while looting is more OP in a battle royal game than genburten one clipping you cause he’s better
-keep the pros happy for ALGS and professional games but tend to the casuals in CASUAL apex (I really do miss self revive :/….)
-the only way aim assist should be tweaked is rollers get tap strafing and moving while looting, untill then it’s fair and fine as it is since both inputs have their advantages and disadvantages
-if aim assist was so over powered ALGS Wouldn’t be 70% PC players
Hopefully this starts a healthier convo about aim assist because this is just getting out of hand.
Just get rid of crossplay ???
At the end of the day M&K wasn't meant for gaming, now that's not to say that it's not a good input. In my personal opinion I think that eventually both M&K and controller will be replaced by a new input or even a new platform (therefore a new input). It's just the matter of what can we do to solve this problem now, so unless you see a better solution than aim-assist, why complain?
Solutions take away cross play and take away the ability to be able to use a controller on computer. That's all you can do, if we keep cross play this will continue
Remember they wanted to remove tap strfe , possibly the only thing pc has that console thosent. Kbm is hard asf and having a bunch of buttons isnt easily mastered
Saying that playing with aim assist is killing shooters is rediculas. You are trying to say that positioning, game knowledge, and strategy do not exist in the game.
M & k players if you get outplayed it's because your strategy and positioning were bad stop looking for an excuse.
Halo actually added crosshair friction a week or so ago which is MnK’s test version of AA. I tried it out since I swapped to MnK for most shooters aside from Halo and I kept up pretty well in onyx lobbies
Not as good as playing on controller but still it’s a start
I’ve been on controller for years and aim assist has never helped me one bit it’s like it doesn’t exist for me
Crying about controller again
Okay i know its just an example but… how the f….. can you use a ps5 when the halo games only is on Xbox and PC!?🤣
I suck at apex w/aim assist 😂
In Rust console, aim assist doesnt exist, and if you get beamed, he is probaly just a good player.
Ranked modes need to be input-based. Anybody that puts in the work to be good at any given game shouldn’t be slighted or tooken away from because of their input .
You wanna know why controller is dominating? It's because games are SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYED WITH A CONTROLLER. You MNK nerds don't get it do you? No other video game besides FPS is played with a stupid ass mouse. Not 1. Not Madden. 2k Forza, PGA, fighting games, none of it. The only games that are played like that are shooters because you shouldn't be using it at all. It's not designed for that, it's not healthy to sit there straight up in a chair like a goober 10 hours a day and snap your wrist. Your supposed to be typing. Gaming should be done with a controller. End of story. Then there is no debate. Not 1 time has anybody said I'm gonna go play Madden 08 on my computer. Probably because MNK players are not athletes.
also a worthy mention. Halo has gone to such a bad level that they officially added AIM ASSIST to MOUSE AND KEYBOARD. yes. even mouse and keyboard has aim assist now.
Wtf I'm 💎 on apex I play with controller and I miss shots all the time something is definitely wrong with my aim assist I want the aim assist this guy is talking about
They need to do the same as overwatch, pubs have all the aim assist you want but in ranked pc don’t allow aim assist.
Stop bitching lol.
Controller players egos are too assisted
Problem with Apex, is their lack of detection of hardware exploits. AA is strong as is, but there are ALOT of players using SP, Cronus and other inputs to make it even stronger / easier even on PC. Ive seen soooo many rollers beaming in smokes with flattys / 301 and new accounts boosting here and there, snapping and locking. Being MnK its hard to be consistent. And best counter is honestly, 301 with 1x and just ADS beam them down and hold angles. Its so frustrating that a game with such big names and a f ton of money, cant implement a detection tool that "this guy use other hardware". Rust had a notorious problem with Blood mices, but the devs managed to put in a detection tool to instantly ban these devices, giving a perm ban on all servers. Im sick of AA plays, its boring to watch. If i get shit on by a legit MnK, i give respect, as i know how much time that person had to spend to make it there. Hipfire on MnK takes alot of mechanical skill to make it work since the nerf on AR. U simply cant just rush in and hipfire with perfect accuracy. You have to reset it with ADS. U dont need to do that on roller, cus aimdraft kicks in instantly. I have almost 6.2k put into the game. Pure passion and all i want is to chill in my Master / Pred Lobbies. 😂
what no on realizes/talks about is mouse aiming utilizes more muscle memory from your whole damn hand and arguably much of your arm.
A controller player has their thumb…thats all.
So to compare the two, is like a controller player playing with one arm tied behind their back in a certain sense.
The complaining MnK nerds need to gtfo of the house if a lil aim assist they can't utilize bothers them. Controller players are handicapped from the jump, but can play longer hours…which is needed to catch up information gathering wise.
Each way has its pros and cons. name of the game is how well you can adapt to the game with the style that suits you.
Aimbots/hacks are a much grander enemy with videogames. And…I'd also throw in the absolute lack of skin in the game with pro level gaming has that pool much more diluted than one might think.
Pc 200 fps vs console 60 fps and they still crying, if u think controller is broken , play one entire season ranked , you will see u need alot of effort and train hard to be a good player is not just shooting like u said that's bullshit, if controller is so broken why not all controller players are on pred ?. Try one season to play ranked if u can reach the same level on m & k i will believe u ….
Being on xbox the train mode this Christmas showed me even the new players if they’ve got awareness are shooting great shots and it’s mostly aim assist
Can’t wait till they remove aim assist. As a max sense roller player who turns it off and on I can’t wait to continue to shit on Mnk shitters who are simply inconsistent like urself. Also if you are on roller and play 4-3 and lower I can’t wait for aim assist to nerf you
Amazing how many people think AA is fun.
Lot of money in console community, so they have a say. I know several people that worked at Respawn and they all said that there were many arguments about aim assist and it always came down to player base composition.
I would love to try out keyboard and mouse for the advanced movement tech and stuff but, they still haven’t added kbm to console 😭😭
Just separate lobbies by input. Mnk cry about AA and console cry about being beamed by mnk. Turn off crossplay mnk users and enjoy your long queue times
Casuals make the game money, ranked keeps the game going. Think a lot of people forget to have fun and get too worked up and tryna keep up with these streamers
This happened to the fighting game community a long time ago. You just gotta press one button to do combos now smh…
Personally, I don't use aim assist in games I don't like the sticky feeling the basic aim just feels more natural and better imo in my perspective. I come from years of experience from turning off Aim assist from COD to CSGO to even Fortnite and now Apex. I can agree to some extent how aim assist helps players because of the sticks and little buttons to play with but I've tried playing with aim assist sometimes and it almost feels like it's not me aiming and sometimes is way too powerful to the point of where the aim assist is sticking to people kinda through walls around corners, wether they randomly decide to take away aim assist one day or not I'm speaking on the behalf of Apex Legends the game I mainly play I won't be affected by those changes because I don't use it.
I must be the worst player in the world 🤷♂️ I play I console with controller and still miss shots
Its already took over shooters are not fun anymore because of that i think they should put an option thats makes u play without controller player
Aim assist must be deleted ew… these trashers say that we need Aim Assist because an example… Aceu can superglide, wallbounce, mantle jump… Dude my brother cant do it… Atleast i only can do some superglides and wallbounce playing from SA in NA servers…. I refuse to change into a controller because i really love the feeling that my mouse provides since i started playing Half Life and Counter Strike 2013…
COD and Apex never gonna die because most of these controller noobs enjoy the moment… Sorry but i feel more competitive CSGO or Valorant than Apex….
Sorry if i made some Mistakes im a Spanish native
So something I will point out as I can’t remember if you said so in the video pc does have slight aim assist at a value of 1.4 while console exclusively has a value of 1.6. Personally I’m on console using pc as because I actually like it more. But I do see your point. I think the values overall should be lowered in the future due to the ever changing console/controller scene.
AA is for no skill trash bags. MK is a high skill input and every kill is earned. When I get a high kill games there’s no voice in the back of my head saying you only earned 60% of that on your own. Console can have its bs aim assist, but when I come flying by snapping necks and shitting on their existence. They will know that their life was taken by 110% mechanical skill.
I hope you do a 100 hour playing controller, I'll be great if you do it in a new account too
I love how everyone ignores the moment when gen switched to mnk for tournament and beamed everyone. Wonder where was AA then….😂😂😂
@4:22 am I missing something? A lower price point?
why would anyone complicate thire life with more inputs ? doesn't make any sense …play games on controller , send email's and tweets with M&K's .
PLZ, Give a try to Naraka Bladepoint, MnK is stronger than roller there!
Controller and MnK both have their good and bad aspects. Boom, done
It's like shroud said, the 2 in inputs should not be in the same space. Its just too hard too balance
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